government got too big and made people too dependent and now it's going to be more government to change that. how does that work? >> eric: bob? how does that work? >> bob: i will tell you, i think it was a fairly, a fair commentary on limbaugh's part. i mean i think he got the gist of what i said. what i want to repeat here is that there is going to be a need for government to help certain people in our society. many of whom come from the inner city and are minorities and they are going to require government intervention to help them. we have went too far is what i said. i said it yesterday and i'll say it again today. we did it with the right intentions. in many cases the wrong outcome. >> andrea: why won't you stop? >> bob: i think there are very important programs that were in place, like head start. like women and children -- >> andrea: wic, obama