it's been investigated by the fbi, and to try to turn it into something -- >> does that prove this point about selective, i guess, civil rights violations? that -- what does that say about eric holder? does he have a racial perspective? who agrees, does he have a racial perspective? >> we want to have an honest discussion about race. >> you said we're a nation of cowards. >> they don't want to have an honest discussion. >> it may benefit eric holder at this point in time, to concentrate on this, and not concentrate on issues he was facing before this happened. >> you're a criminal defense attorney, is part of the reason some people don't understand the law and how the law applies in a courtroom? i think a lot of people don't have an understanding of that system. >> i think that's true, and actually, when one of the jurors was interviewed, had indicated she had a hard time following the law in this case. i would like to add, and give perspective on this, from my point of view, the evidence was