that seemed to serve no purpose at all. >> like i said, they should have contracted out with google. we live in the internet age. this is complicated stuff but something the government should have been ready for. this is president obama's signature achievement, right? this thing should have been -- you shouldn't have had the thing break down as it did in so many states and i really worry about what this prestages us for for the effectiveness of obamacare in total. we have the i.r.s. not ready, we have a system that's not working, we have insurance companies that are dropping out. we have small businesses that have no idea how this is going to work. it's a big risk to the economy. jon: and you have a health and human services secretary who goes on the daily show with john stewart. she couldn't answer how many people are on. you need to interview her and