cloak of religion. >> under the banner of religion. being a child in this church, let's talk about that. because one of the pieces that the documentary addresses is the treatment, at least for a period, of children. and the convincing of members to sort of hand over their children to the church. and a woman who's heavily featured in it named spanky talks about her last straw with scientology and rescuing her child and making a run for it leaving the church and off they went. how long was that kind of thing going on? >> for a long time. i mean many many, many years. spanky and myself and other people that are featured in this documentary were part of what's called the sea organization. and the c organization is the central core of scientology the people that work and live in church facilities. it's analogized not exactly correctly, but it's analogized to the clergy in the film.