the ruling in general is basically driven by -- there is no urgency here, so, the president, we need to see this -- we being the legal system -- we need to take a look at this. they are not upholding the stated law. >> they are not. you quoted the law perfectly in your "talking points." a judge should have the field of dresses in front of him or her, which should become of the national security, the security, and the interest of the plaintiff. the interest of the plaintiff, the state of washington, is not primary. in fact, the state of washington does not have an interest. it is students from another country in the state of washington that does not tip the scales. let me tell you something, bill. the reason of the state of washington is suing is because they know the appeal goes to the most laughed at -- >> bill: one of the judges is a republican appointed by bush the younger. it is too easy to dismiss it in a knee-jerk. i will make a prediction, the