of texas, there 600,000 people who don't have paying jobs, who don't receive any government benefits. i don't believe that. >> so expert evidence presented to the court has now found texas' voter i.d. law to be discriminatory in terms of its effect on african-american and latino voters. >> tucker: where those numbers from? i hear this all the time, a lot of people that don't have i.d. if you don't have a government-sponsored i.d., you cannot get but it would not government get benefits and you cannot have a job. you cannot rent a car. how did these people exist, where those numbers from? >> they are citizens from the state of texas who actually participated in voting 600,000 registered voters who are disenfranchised when this law was put into effect. >> because they didn't have their ideas with them doesn't mean they didn't have i.d.'s. so where's the evidence of there's a large number of people in any state who did not have government ids? there is no evidence of that. >> we're actually beyond that question in this case because the fifth circuit, the most