american progress christy hefner back on the show with us. good to be here in chicago. you brought us a heat wave. what is it, 2 degrees? >> i think we're going north of 20 today. >> rick, you know something about a lot of people in cpac, a lot of tea party types there. do you think donald trump has a shot at running and grabbing a good number of -- >> i don't know if he has a shot, but it would be nice to have somebody leading the country that makes millions rather than spends billions. >> so you think having that sort of business background is a good idea? >> i think capitalism has deny well for this country, it's created lots of job, we have a pretty high standard of living all things considered. yes, i think it would be interesting. i'm not sure he's the exact person, but he has qualities with regard to leadership in an economy that's struggling, i think he brings things to the stable. >> i see a start here which is