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father was shot. i think we have an issue that's broader than just guns, though, and that has something to do with the kashger or psyche of the united states. it isn't just guns. the nra people are right. guns don't kill people. people with guns kill people, particularly crazy people with guns kill people, but we fetishize violence and guns in this country. look at the way our young people are brought up. the video games and computer games they play, the movies we watch. we are awash in violence, and we consider violence to be the first resort in almost any circumstance. it's like we're walking around in our personal revenge fantasies all the time. that's a much bigger issue than just controlling this or that type of gun. >> what's interesting, of course, the politics of this. the nra is politically very popular. how can we prove this? i'm going to read three statements from president barack obama when he was a guy running for congress, then a guy running for senate, and then a sitting president. here is where president obama was on guns in 2001. i know the nra believes people should be unimpeded and

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