identified tea party members say in this poll. hold on a second, let me finish the sentence, say in the poll, we don't want to touch medicare. the same thing here, if you don't go after entitlements, slow down the rate of growth, go after pentagon spending, go after social security and, yes, raise revenue in the federal government, you don't balance the budget. >> that's the point. we talk about all the things we need to do and when we do them, we get polls like that. >> we're a country of takers not givers. not one sector of this country understand sacrifice, maybe guys you grow up with, wealthy, maybe tea partiers, nobody wants to give up anything. as a country, we have to across the board. that's it. >> mike, it's just -- these people -- a lot of americans just aren't serious right now. >> i think they might be serious but i think we might be ungovernable at this point in time, given the hostility between the two parties.