he's been involved in wisconsin politics for i think 39 years now, and i've been dealing with him for 19. so this isn't some sort of thing that we don't know each other. i contacted him, asked him all this stuff and it's just amazing that he's decided not to talk at all. >> dan, campaign finance is one of those issues even when it's a scandal that it's sort of hard to get people to pay attention to. one of the things that has received some attention for herman cain is he doesn't seem to have much of a traditional campaign apparatus. block obviously a longtime political operative. a lot of other people around him seem to be from americans for prosperity, the group set up by the koch brothers. because of that, i think this ç may be something people end up following with some interest. i have to ask you if there is more to this story from your perspective. do you expect to do further reporting on this? >> i only wrote about what happened with the cain campaign. these groups raised hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of dollars, and we haven't gotten to bottom of how that money was spent. you're right. campaign finance stuff is hard to compete with sexual harassment. but, you know, it's -- there are interesting elements given the koch brothers' american for prosperity and their involvement in this situation. >> dan bice, columnist for "the milwaukee journal sentinel." i've been reading you on all