it started today. it's going on for four days. i was struck by the fact that, first of all, there aren't a lot of signs or buttons for any of the candidates. it's a big crowd. there are a lot of people there. a lot of kids there. it's a great social thing for conservatives now. but you felt in a way the presidential campaign in general, mitt romney in particular, are not attached to what is really kind of the woodstock of the conservative movement. >> that's the question. i think tomorrow at 1:00 in the afternoon, he hits those people. does he go back to his usual fighting stance of taking on obama one more time, just blasting the president? >> i think he has to do that, but he's got to do more. i talked to some of these activists who are speaking at this conservative gathering. they say the mistake sheer somehow the anti-obama riff is enough. we see it. >> they thought that? >> it's not enough. you look at who is showing up in colorado and minnesota and the other contests. the numbers are down. why? because there's not intensity for somebody. this is part of the problem. of course, conservatives don't