virginia and colorado. how concerned do you think they are about losing these four states in november? >> oh, they're absolutely concerned. those four by my back of the envelope calculations are probably the four of that group of eight swing states that really were the balance of this election is going to be decided. those are absolutely the four where my own view is mitt romney has the best chance. they make up 48 electoral votes. i think i did the math right in my head. if he wins those four, he's won the election. each one of those he doesn't win especially ohio and virginia which are two of the real biggies and the lynch pins of his strategy, he has a harder map and romney has a much easier map. >> dave, as the president addresses the economy in his speech on thursday, how does he frame it? >> i think he describes the lowest point of the economy as he came into office and it's pretty well known, losing 500,000 jobs a month, every projection being unable to hold up to the reality of the next