would agree with me, if he were alive today, that if african-americans had been given the right to keep and bear arms from day one of the country's founding, perhaps slavery might not have been a chapter in our history. >> what a dumb, dumb nut. joy, you've got to respond. this is not a nut but a dumb nut. slaves didn't come to america as citizens, came in shackles, in the bottom of a ship somewhere if they were lucky to be alive when they got here. the idea they would be armed by anyone. he's obviously patternizing here, trying to act like he cares about the fate of black people and some sort of number he was playing here. who would believe this new larky. >> why is it that every time the far right makes an argument that's insane, they jump on the civil rights movement and slavery and try to latch their argument on to the history of african-americans. >> as if they give a damn or be up in front. >> you don't remember ted nugent