and, two, what we think about here in new york state alone or new york city alone the numbers of women, primarily minority women, who are -- have their children taken away solely because they test positive for marijuana. you can go in a brooklyn family courtroom any day of the week and see this happening, they are out there fighting this battle every day. when you think about all of those injustices and you hear people saying what they say, it's reprehensible. >> so you guys are giving me a tough time between the scalping metaphors and the slavery metaphors. i think we have to be careful on the slavery metaphors so i want to just reiterate that so i make sure i've heard what you said. then i want to go to jared here. which is that there is something about asking who is bearing the greatest cost in any given circumstance and in this case the question of who's bearing that cost are those who are most vulnerable and most marginalized so that if you were a college student at an ivy league institution who does a little
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