carolina who had ignored this issue or mealy mouthed this issue for far too long and we did that, the day after senator pinckney's death. we went on the air and we said it was time to bring the confederate flag down dwefl that very purposely to put pressure on the governor who at that point had given more, an answer that wasn't much of an answer. a congressman, u.s. senators. and we kept that focus until last night at 1:30 in the morning. and representative jenny horne was a part of that and a part of that effort. >> one thing the governor said and we played it there, this idea of this incident causing people to walk in the shoes, or to try to walk in the shoes of other people. to see the world from their perspective. and it seems that accounts for so much of the sudden change we saw in south carolina on this issue. it does raise the question, too, it has been 150 years since the civil war. it has been 50 years since the