saying the targets, and then the meetings at night, i don't see any of that from this team. >> i agree with that, but it starts at the top. you can't have a message meeting in the morning if the first thing is to see the president tweeted at 6:00 a.m. o at midnight. >> in the end, white houses reflect the president. i worked for two presidents that were very different people, but they had a clear idea of what they were doing, what they were trying to do, and getting it done. we have seen a lot of noise and mess but no action to deliver on his agenda. there has been no progress on it. >> all you had to navigate was the disputes between the vice president and the first lady that was competing with him for things like health care and other big issues. that was not an easy --