if there were, why hasn't he played them already? why does he keep saying these things at press conferences and not just say there aren't any tapes? >> he's tying the press up in knots in this. >> i think he's enjoying that. he's very much enjoying that. he's tweeting about it. he had to know the press conference today was going to be about this. he didn't shut jonathan carl down and move on. he had a lengthy back and forth with him about that. i haven't seen it, aggressively shouting at him, when are we going to see the tapes? another reporter, can we see them now, can i see them first? it's not something you see reporters doing in that setting. >> especially in the rose garden in front of the president of romania. josh, i go back and forth, sometimes i'm consumed with the whole idea of the tapes and the investigation, the comey and everything else. but unfortunately, you know, underlying all this very important issues going on in the country, especially on the issue with the russia meddling in our election. at least i do, i forget that