the ledger sheets have been in the newspapers. you get large amounts of money, you don't pay american taxes on it. that's a problem too. this say very deep potential case. the manafort say guy playing along the edges for a very, very long time with some incredibly unscrupulous people. i think it's unlikely they're not going to find something that he's going to wish they didn't find. and that is -- that's going to help them turn. >> governor, you're mentioning there is this kremlin backed figure from ukraine that basically had manafort as a multimillion dollar, you know, paid consultant and adviser in that whole money show for a long time. governor, if you are looking at this from the position of what is best for the united states, what should the people who still work at the white house or linked to this and the president himself do today now that everyone is learning the fbi,