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it was riveting. bill taylor is an american hero. he served in vietnam with the 101st airborne. he's a graduate of west point. you cannot impeach his character in any way. and his evidence was absolutely def stating to the president of the united states. >> what was the reaction to republicans who were in that meeting? >> not good. you could tell that they were troubled by what he was saying. >> republicans have been saying -- questioning the process. why do you have -- why are you doing this behind closed doors? why are you interviewing witnesses without republicans in the room? republicans are in fact in the room. and they have had equal time to question as well, right? so why not have this open to the public? why not have this open to other republicans? >> having prosecuted a lot of cases myself, i know that when the defense doesn't have the facts or the law they attack the process. and in this case that's what republicans have. they don't have the facts on their side or the law on their side. and their process arguments are quite silly.