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guard has interdict ed 5,154 cubans compared to 838 last year and 49 in 2020, which meanss there a surge that's happening right now. but it's the venezuelans that he's opting to do so to remove and intercept in texas. there's a political notion then. >> he went to texas to find 50 migrants. >> yeah. >> the governor of florida. i mean, that's just idiotically political. look, our border states have been undersiege for a while. you're right, april, through multiple administrations. but this isn't leadership. this is just appealing to his base to get them out and vote. >> is it idiotic -- i hear your point. is it idiotic or strategic? it does have joe biden and the administration -- president joe biden and the administration now having the perception among some that people talk about it, as if he were flat footed and not thinking about it and now reacting to what's happening.