fish out to get the big fish. >> jeanine: are you kidding? >> it was a bad program, but not a program unique to this administration. >> jeanine: yes, it was, because they didn't track the guns. >> it's going to hurt his re-election. number two, he's stand buying eric holder. he doesn't want him to resign. number one, eric holder is close to the president. >> absolutely. >> they're comrades. he was part of the vice president's celtics committee. >> this is an attempt by darrell issa and other republicans in congress to distract eric holder from the real problem in this country, people being denied the franchise to vote in america. this is a way to keep him out of the news. >> eric holder is a joke. >> he's been a fine attorney general. >> jeanine: do you defend fast and furious? >>