he does not want to have another major ground force war. i think probably most people would agree with him but he stuck his toe in the water here when he said we're going to destroy them. that is -- that is a giant task. so there's going to be the two sides of obama if we -- on many issues. >> let's talk about the other big story this week, that is that congress is tied in knots about what to do about the nsa bulk data collection. we asked you for questions for the panel and we got this on facebook from debra raynes i believe it's illegal. there should be a reason and name to put in a warrant. let's be honest did the nsa stop fort hood? it's crazy and violates my rights. george how do you answer debra? >> beginning with a familiar joke. a man goes out every morning on