having lunch. about 3:00. what everyone is saying now they were ambushed. >> martha: investigators say a motive may never be known. police say they found the shooter dead nearby with what appears to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound. 58-year-old local man described as a recluse, no criminal record, the local sheriff's sharing this reaction. >> what do you expect happens when you demonize law enforcement to the extent that it's been demonized, every type of hate, every type of put down that you can think of. the only thing these men were guilty of what's wanting to protect you and me. they just wanted to go get something to eat. they just wanted to do their job. >> martha: awful. as for the victims, sergeant ramirez leaves behind a wife and two young children. deputy lindsay has a family who is mourning him as well. joining me now is deputy lindsay's cousin, they were very