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top issue with women. the evidence showed a plate atop role with the election. conservatives have an easier time winning the narrative rather than the policy. when you look at the policies, i believe kansas or ohio, what state ohio? rachel: ohio. joey: would you look at the policy i don't know if it's a swing to the far right that people perceive or when people sit and read as a potential law they fear for their own personal sovereignty but conservatives do a lot better job on the narrative of abortion be pro-life rather than antiabortion. that something conservatives especially those running for president have to reconcile. just like karl rove said in will pointed out, there is a middle ground of voters that maybe abortion has it affected our life so they see it more objectively and say abortion sound like a bad idea because this, this, this. if you say you don't have any opportunity to look at this in