job skills and training. those kind of things, they can take a ridder and they can work on those skills so they can go home and be reunited. they can be growing members of their family. this is about people and life and hope. we understand that that is the best time for that. that is what people should be taking away from it. >> we just incarcerated a lot of people in america. most of those people are in state prisons. you have taken some impacts from zaz that has been one of the leading states in dealing with this. what did you learn there that you didn't know that you would like to see spread all through the united states in terms of friday reform. >> one of the reasons we want today do this and the white