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really it is part of the horizon is looking at possibly a federal ban and we saw lindsey graham introducing something that would federally ban abortions at 15 weeks and that's something that could happen if of course there is a republican president and republican controlled house and senate, and i will say that when i ask gretchen whitmer about that idea, saying okay, it is nur state constitution but what if the federal ban comes along, she says we're ready to fight this tooth and nail and hopefully there will be a national codifying of roe v. wade which is what president biden says he wants to do. >> any sense of enthusiasm and movement among voters now that a lot of these states have codified their protections for abortion, does that dissipate? does that go away for the next election cycle? is it too early to even say that? >> it's a great question. what i'm sensing, when i was on the ground and what i'm sensing in talking to advocates on both sides of this issue, is that people now are motivated, those voter lists, they're sort of activated and you think about a state like michigan which i just came back from, that state saw a