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that i guess put me in the red is taken seriously when he comes back home. >> no doubt about it. >> this president is good at what he does. >> i've always told people. >> and -- mm-hmm? >> i've told people, the president is very sharp. if you say something or write something, there have been times he's called and refuted it very sharply. i talk to foreign leaders that have had conversations with him that said that he was on top of every issue. to the degree they were actually -- some nato leaders have told me they were very surprised, the contrast between the image in public and the joe biden behind closed doors. because he is so sharp and on top of everything. so much has to do with presentation. for any trumpers saying, oh, my god, they're talking about how we may need to take a rest every