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basis i.t., if it is good, no. and it is such an important point, litigating the conspiracy is, in some ways, litigating the election. because the important factual predicate to it being a conspiracy is that he knew he lost, and all the nonsense, the big lie was not true. there is a sort of substrate of the whole thing that going back to remind everyone he lost to joe biden, which in the view of republicans, joe biden such a ludicrous figure. so preposterous that she would lose to joe biden. that is the argument that trump flirted with four they're being fraud. how could me, your favorite president, lose to joe biden? but the litigation to this is reminding everyone that yes, indeed, you lost to joe biden. >> but one of trump's lawyers are saying tonight in response to the indictment that what they are looking for into the trial, because it will disprove all these assertions that these were false claims of voter fraud, they will have to prove once and for all that the election was stolen.