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law in certain states if something is done wrong or untoward. that needs to happen at scale in medicine and in public health. if you are -- you need to be held accountable. we don't have those mechanisms in place. you're going toless afind a cottage industry of physicians or those wearing white coats giving credibility to a political agenda in health. >> dave, what is the read, what is the talk in florida, among floridians, particularly if you're among this part of the state that was pandered to really with disinformation about the vaccine not being necessary? >> well, people become so cynical they know it was a political calculation for ron desantis to embrace the anti-vaxx nuts. i mean, these are the same people who are fueling rfk jr.'s presidential campaign. and it also allows desantis to show some daylight between him and his one-time mentor former