territory and a number of different criminal groups fighting for territory. the place you were mentions before where armando torres went, that's the state just south of texas where his father owned a ranch and that is where they disappeared about a month ago. just one more statistic to share with viewers, suzanne. when you look at the kidnapping rate in mexico and people who like numbers, like to put it in just these terms, for every 100,000 people there are 20 kidnappings in mexico. that's 2012 numbers. compare that to columbia. the worst ever, the year 1999, they had 6.22 per 100,000 people, so that gives you an idea of how bad the situation in mexico is. >> do they have a sense once somebody is kidnapped, they're still looking for him, as time goes by they're not going to find him? are they really doing an active investigation and trying to find this young guy?