will exist on two tracks. it will begin, the public testimony while continuing to try to take deposition or talk with people behind the scenes, but there is a couple things i would flag, number 1, this will be the first big test of whether putting some of these people on camera can permeate american consciousness outside the beltway and make this issue more understandable. >> freight point. >> or something of -- >> great point. >> or something across the country. to republicans critical of the democrat's process until now, have been saying, let's have this out in the open. this shouldn't be happening behind closed doors. they will get what they asked for. i'm not sure what they want. schiff and pelosi have chosen two of the most prophet ig figures they can to present in this initial rollout. these are people that want to speak publicly. with know efrom bill taylor he was leaving bread crumbs in those text chains knowing it would be a record, flagging it saying this is wrong, is this