clinton and obama? >> they're worse at this point. you see them right here on the screen right now. the only president in recent history who is in worse shape than joe biden was donald trump in 2018. he was at 39%. at least at this point biden's numbers are worse than reagan as and worse than obama's. both hovering around 50%. clinton was actually in the high 50s at this point. of course, we're still very early on. but one year in, biden is in a worse position that be those guys. >> did you see bush? 81%. >> that was after 9/11. >> h.w. bush in 1990, 78% was pretty high. >> those were very high. h.w. bush had a very high approval rating for a long time. people forget that. >> all of them ultimately got down to the 40% range when dissatisfaction with the country's direction peaked. i think that -- the real