was the election and getting that ballot and mailing it in. if you were to ask people is joe biden going to get more of the black vote than barack obama, people would say no. and biden supposedly did. it doesn't make any sense. >> but the bigger picture here is actually one i'm really interested in because it is a recurring theme, which is that you have skepticism about the black vote in this election. part of it, it seems to me, you know, you said you lived and voted in a black area and how could those people have the time to pay attention to the election. why do you think you would be able to pay attention to that if black people wouldn't? >> i don't think that everyone is interested in politics like i am. it's not necessarily about racial lines. >> reporter: trump himself has repeated this same trope. it's a quip, not a fact. in 2008 an estimated 95% of black voters voted for obama. in 2020, 92% voted for biden. but lies like this one were