that tashfeen malik, his wife may have radicalized him. does the family think that's a possibility, that that is likely, that she was the one who radicalized him and she is the one who led this attack? >> like we said many times before, syed and tashfeen, they were very isolated. and honestly the family was completely surprised and devastated and have been crying for the past, you know -- since wednesday. since the time of the incident and praying about the event. but no one had any knowledge. if anybody would have, they definitely would have done something to stop it. unfortunately, that didn't exist in this case. it was a complete shock and everyone was confused and surprised that this took place. everyone in the family. >> when you talk about that and how they've been crying and praying, a lot of people out there question that. how could this family not have known? for example, his mother.