he would have been on a watch list if he tried to get out of syria, to board a plane or do something on a plane, that would have been stretching it. they probably would have used him for propaganda value. here comes a guy from the great crusader army. the scales have fallen from his eyes he has seen the true path of islam. he has joined the caliphate. >> like jihadi john? >> obviously this guy speaks fluent english, he comes from new jersey. right in the heart, the eastern seaboard of the united states and i think they probably would have ginned that up as much as they could. >> do you think this is going to be a new trend? i think of jihadi john. i think of the situation in brooklyn. we've seen in france, military french military personnel leaving to go join the fight. we see this happening in the united states. is this a new thing? or is it an exception? >> not particularly. i mean we had the fort hood