need to go even deeper. when you want to be a pilot and you want to take the lives of that many people. this isn't just one flight. when you take a flight as a pilot. you're carrying not just those 150 people but maybe two or three times during the day you were doing that same thing. this is a very risky situation, it's a public hazard there's no reason we should be digging into the records and making those records exposed. you can't hide behind hipaa in this situation. >> they're hiding behind hipaa. it's not about stigmatizing mental health. people can be mentally ill and they're fine they move on treat it and they're productive. i saw your eyebrows go up when he said once they check the nos, there's been a transfer of liability. no there hasn't this airline has to have a higher level of culpability and responsibility here. what's the next step do you think? >> well i think the next step is for some country and it should be ours going back and saying the system doesn't work the self-reporting. i can tell you all you have to