director and host of the cnn political briefing podcast, david chalian. david, mike pence has a really interesting relationship with january 6th. in seemingly difficult time difficulty talking about it. so what do you think is going to happen here? >> he's been all over the map throughout the last year. everything from, you know, stating publicly that his former boss, president trump, and he will never see the events eye to eye. as recently as this fall, john, he sort of cast it aside as one day in january that the media are obsessed with. he hasn't landed in a place that seems he's sold on his narrative. now, at the end of the day, we all know mike pence did the right thing. he did not go forward with donald trump's desired coup. and he explained that he did not see anything in the law that allowed him to do so. but it is a clear political