president that ukraine's new government was serious about stopping corruption. volker revealed that he met in late may with president trump, who insisted ukraine was a corrupt country full of terrible people. the president said, they tried to take me down. the president referring to a theory that it was ukraine, not russia, that interfered in the 2016 election. that has been debunked. volker also released pages of text that show how the trump administration with the help of rudy giuliani was determined to push ukraine to investigate joe biden and his son, as well as that debunked theory. on july 25th, the day of trump's phone call with ukrainian president zelenskzelensky, volk texted zelensky's aide, heard from the white house, assuming president z convinces trump he will investigate to get to the bottom of what happened. but volker insists he never took