their head. but i -- i -- i want to pick you up on -- on that, you know, and see -- it's hard to say what happens, next. but if -- if the taliban have won, um, you know, how do they go forward here? do they -- do they, you know, form a government? what about all of the other -- um -- ethnic groups that belong to the -- you know, this country? how do they bring all of those -- um -- disparate groups together? >> yeah, i mean, they're going to have their work cut out for them because it's one thing to be a guerrilla insurgency or to be very effective fighters on the ground. it's another thing to be governors and particularly, when you embody this sort of very, you know, strict islamist -- many would argue medieval form of islamism, that doesn't create a very large tent. it doesn't embrace a lot of people. you mentioned, the many minorities in afghanistan. the people who are not sunni muslim but shia muslim.