about for decade, the idea that media is biased in the case for liberals. is that the case and what else accounts for the changing attitudes we've seen in all of the polling in recent years? >> i've always been a big doubter of the liberal bias critique, although maybe this issue is different. if you go back and look at the long history of the bias critique goes back to we know when it started, spiro agnew in 1969 basically invented this as a way of getting back at the news media of the day that was, you know, that he thought was opposing the vietnam war and that sort of thing. and it's, you know, it's gone on and on over the years and the hilarious thing is that the media is objectively much less liberal today than it was then after years and years of this stuff. but, you know, this is a very interesting question. does the media reflect or does it cause? and people debate this all the time in sociology and history, all sorts of other disciplines. i used to argue about it myself.