the fake electors that supported the theory that house republicans should vote against counting the votes from pennsylvania and from arizona and, in fact, two-thirds of the house republicans voted that way two years ago and i'm wondering if you think in retrospect maybe kevin should have been more on the side of traditional republicanism, traditional conservative governance and not been so acquiesce sent to this wing. >> one thing i have in my relationship with kevin is i'm point blank with him and told him last time when this came up two years ago, january 6th it was a stupid idea and needed to shut it down right away. they let it fester. look what we got so this time you're probably right, jake, they feel they're empowered or this is how they make it. this is commotion now, shutting down our republican vote of making it look like we're in chaos. that's how they live. that's why they're out in front of all these cameras. it's the stupidest idea they'll