states, and brought her back to coeur d'alene to flaunt the fact that she had become his sex slave. 8-year-old girl, thank god a woman in denny's had seen this case on "america's most wanted" and again did the right thing and called the police. they become very bold. they become very complacent. this is their sex toy. these are the children that they created out of these relationships. phillip garrido even took the two girls out at one point. it's disgusting, but they can hide in plain sight. i've saw many of these guys that hide in plain sight and they're control freaks. and they're -- this is their game. this is their game. and they get away with it for years, until somebody observes something and tries to make a difference, and that difference is charles ramsey, because just think about it, if charles ramsey had kept walking down the street, those girls might be in there forever until those guys allegedly the abusers got sick of them and may have killed p>> and john how do we stop things like this from happening?