budget reflects where he places his value. >> let me -- i want to point out something congressman jeff miller a republican from florida said talking about the backlog. >> without better workload or surge capacity planning, i am fearful that v.a. is simply one national mission away from complete collapse and utter failure. >> and, again, i think it sounds like the president's heart's in the right place, your heart's in the right place, but something here is not working. and if a country promises people go fight for us and we'll fight for you. >> sure. >> we see the increase suicide rates, we see these enormous backlogs that get worse instead of better, and yet you have an increased budget. so i'm just trying to figure out why this isn't working. >> well, we have put in place a robust plan to end the backlog in 2015. that's been our commitment. and we have today an automation tool that we didn't have two