>> or just to embarrass biden and his border policy. >> that's certainly part of it. this is something that is a national embarrassment. i don't see the evidence for it right now, but there are attorneys general of a number of states, missouri, montana, who have said they believe it there's something here, and that counts for something. >> lulu, republicans say that the high crime or misdemeanor is gross incompetence on the part of mayorkas and a failure to follow the law. >> i mean, again, this is a party that cannot pass any budget, and they're focusing on trying to impeach secretary mayorkas. and not only secretary mayorkas, they're actually trying to open investigations and possibly impeach other members of the cabinet. >> in fairness, the border's a problem. >> the border is a problem. but mayorkas is enacting the policies of the president of the united states. and so therefore, you can dislike the policies of the president of the united states, but is that really something that you should open an impeachment to the person who is doing their job? you might not like the way they're doing their job, but