1990s where you had the iud and breast implants that hurt people because they were infective and these worked the way they were intended but they were through misleading advertising and pushing on individuals where there had already been death -- deaths so this is a fascinating legal theory and this case in ohio alluded to, something like 2,000 municipalities have brought lawsuits and they are consolidated together and looking at this particular legal theory, that a drug company can put out a product as intended, but through a desire -- frankly a desire toen rate profits and a desire to keep prescribing in spite of evidence of individuals being harmed, there you go. >> one thing to point out, a nuance, elliott is right but also the idea that may have worked as intended but the