law. you also say trump is appealing to white racial resentments. how ugly could this get? how will this play out? >> look, i think it's going to get very pointed. it's already. how much uglier can it get than tweeting that people should go back even though they are, you know, americans? look, i think that what we're seeing -- and you see the countermove on the other size, which i think democrats face partly because trump has been so overt, they face enormous pressure. they are using language we have not seen before from democratic nominees and talking about systemic racism and basically arguing that economic inequity is rooted in systemic racism. even when joe biden tried to return to some fairly standard issue 1990s new democrat language, as tangled as it was about combining -- remember that part, beyond the record player, talking about sending social workers to help, you know, low income parents raise their kids, look at the backlash that he received over that, intense and widespread among