>> did you discuss joe biden, his son or family. >> it doesn't matter what i discussed. somebody ought to look into bideens statement. it was disgraceful. >> the conversation i had was largely congratulations. largely corruption all of the corruption taking place. largely the fact that we don't want people like vice president biden and his son creating the corruption already in the ukraine. >> if you don't talk about corruption. why give money to a country that you think is corrupt? one of the reasons the new president got elected is he was going to stop corruption. it's important orn on occasion spo speak to somebody about corruption. >> there was no pressure whatsoever. i could have. i think it would probably possibility been okay if i did. >> probably possibly would have been okay if you did.