>> this is what barack obama, your former boss, said, that the system doesn't need to be torn down. >> no. >> people want it built up. >> they want it built up. the idea -- look, all this stuff about we're going to tear -- >> don't give up, baby! >> thank you, man. the fact that we talk about this -- the part i love when candidates say, and by the way, by executive order i'm going to do this. i have the power to do 90% of the stuff by executive order. so the way they talk is this is going to fundamentally change how we run the government. we have a constitution. a constitution no matter how you cut it requires there to be some consensus. >> you think some of the candidates have gone too far, not the party. the party is moderate. >> we're going to find out pretty soon. >> it is a fascinating conversation, so stay tuned. the joe biden interview starts right now. i've watched you today when you officially put your name on the ballot here. >> yeah. >> hopping across chairs,