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options. >> bill: first lady is offering restaurants to change their unhealthy menus. >> that's a good tasting cooking. >> john stossel is not amiewfsed and he is hungry to talk about it? >> what should we do? >> bill: calls, you where to enter the n ps. the factor begins right now. >> bill: i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching you tonight. say goodbye to the ground zero mosque. the cleric behind the mosque controversy signaled a possible compromise. >> we are exploring all options as we speak right now. and we are working through what will be a solution, god willing that will resolve this crisis, diffuse it. >> bill: that would be wise because things keep getting worse for imam rauf. as we reported last night a close associate of his dr. faiz khan denies that al qaeda attacked america on 9/11. he spoken at the site of the proposed mosque. when we asked the imam to explain his association with khan, he refused in a very foolish move. millions of americans are suspicious of rauf's intentions and this just adds fuel to that fire. in addition, rauf at this points to say dubious stuff. >> first of all, it is absolutely disingenuous that many have said that that block is hallowed ground. as -- have educated and taught and tried to teach the public both muslim and non-muslim. a strip joint around the corner and betting parlors it doesn't add. let's clarify that misperception. >> bill: what is disingenuous is the imam pretending not to understand the proximity issue here. radical muslims killed more than 2,000 people at ground zero. unless the muslim community center is dedicated to condemning that mass murder, which it is not, then there is no reason for it to be so close to the kill zone. but talking points is now ready to predict that a compromise will be reached and the community center mosque project will be moved. there is simply too much scrutiny and imam rauf will not hold up under it. as always, i could be wrong. what i am direct about is that the entire controversy has danged muslim-american relations and nothing good comes from that most muslim americans are good people and citizens and they should not be lumped in with zealots or misguided men like imam rauf. time to put an end to the mosque business unless you want to explain your motives to someone who is not in the tank for you. and that's the memo. now for the top story tonight, reaction, with us our barack and hard place duo monica crowley and alan colmes. >> you are correct as always when you said i could be wrong. no it's not over. >> bill: i'm going to make you a bet. i want to bet and what will we do with this. let's put it to doctors without borders. that's a good charity, correct? >> sure. >> bill: $1,000. >> i don't have that kind of big o'reilly money. >> bill: $500? wait. put the hand down and you write this down. >> okay. >> $500? $100? >> i'm not saying it's not going to be moved but i do think your characterization of the imam as some kind of radical or some kind of a guy that doesn't want peace. >> bill: i didn't say he doesn't want peace. i says he hangs around with a 9/11 truther. >> this is guilt by association. we play this game with obama. >> bill: what is rauf guilty of. >> you say hangs around with because he has an association with somebody who has got a crazy idea he has cuckoo for cocoa puffs. truther stuff, i agree. that doesn't make rauf a signatory to that. >> bill: all right. well, you define the issue. what does it make imam rauf if he starts a foundation, a muslim siding with the man -- poor judge of character? >> you can have associations with all kinds of people with different points of view and stuff than you do. >> bill: i would never be in business with a 9/11 truther. >> you should not be smeared with the belief of everybody who has a crazy idea with whom you may do business. >> take imam at his own word and not talk about the association. he refuses to condemn hamas as a terrorist organization. >> did he condemn it. >> accessory to 9/11. he talks about the united states having so much innocent muslim blood on its hands, more so than any muslim country. he refuses to cite the united states as a liberator of millions of muslims whether we are talking kuwait or somalia or bosnia or iraq or afghanistan. he refuses to do any of that, even when he has been pushed. frankly, last week, when he spoke about that veiled threat that if we're forced to move the mosque and, bill, you might be right about that i don't know, and primarily because he probably won't be able to raise the money for it, not because he thinks it would be too insensitive to put it there but when he did this veiled threat last week saying if we are forced to move the mosque, the united states just -- well, there is no telling what you might face in that what he should be doing, if he is an honest to god or honest to allah peace-building, bridge building moderate as he claims to be, is instead of warning us about what might happen to us if the mosque is moved, he should be warning the radical islamists not to attack. >> he has done that. >> that's a very simple question. >> this has to be responded to. one of the things said about this mosque -- by the way, there is larr mosque in that building and a mosque put in the pentagon a year after 9/11 nobody objected to. help counter radical ideology it is for that purpose. >> how do you know, colmes? how do you know that? how do you know that? >> bill: whoa, how do you explain this guy khan speaking at this site if it's to help counter radical islamist? >> freedom of speech. >> you you don't have to agree with everybody who says. >> he is talking at the burlington coat factory. >> imam has said he would not be a part of this endeavor. >> bill: of course, he has to say that now. >> he has made that statement. he has condemned hamas on interview on other cable network he did condemn hamas. you are wrong about this guy. >> bill: you know, look, now president obama and mayor bloomberg of new york city find themselves in a position where it's getting stronger and stronger against the mosque, new quinnipiac poll shows that and they are becoming on the wrong side of the issue once again. so, i talked about this with brit hume last night. first human didn't think this would carry over until the november election. now he is not so sure because people remember stuff like this. >> exactly. and you know what? this has a cumulative effect on the president. you see the president of the united states on the wrong side of the vast majority of the american people. >> bill: well from your ideology though. >> no. i'm talking about 60% to 70% of the american people. >> bill: wrong side according to the polls? >> yes. on the mosque. on the stimulus, on obama care, on the illegal aim congratulation law on the border. on cap and trade. on whole range of issues. >> on the side of what is right. >> independent moderates and now a lot of democrats. look at the tax cut debate. a growing number of democrats resisting the president. what is going on here? i don't think it's a mystery, bill, this is a pure progressive idealogue. >> bill: you think that the president -- and he is he is standing on principle. is he saying i don't care what public opinion is. >> correct. >> bill: that's a ticket to pa luke can aville, isn't it? >> maybe he doesn't care if he is there or in the white house. maybe he wants to do what is right and not plotting and planning. >> bill: you accede that may not be the best strategy to retain power. >> maybe it's not about retaining power for him. maybe it's a good character trait. >> i agree with that point. >> by the way, when dick cheney said you better vote for republicans here, we're not going to be safe. we night get attacked again. was that a threat? >> can i get colmes saying -- i think he is such a pure idealogue that his ideology his progressive ideology trumps everything includes polls, colleges and each re-election. his fundamental duty, according to himself and his ideology was to fundamentally remake america in a socialist model and he has got one turn to do it. >> bill: isn't that something that should be admired. >> if you are a progressive idealogue like colmes. >> bill: if you are a right winger like you. >> bill that would be okay except he is on the wrong side of 70% of the american people and the constitution. >> bill: if the american people are getting hurt if by his policies. >> and they. >> dick cheney threaten the united states. >> what are you talking about, colmes? >> the threat? hey, you better vote for republicans or we will get attacked again. >> did he not say that nut case. >> bill: if the former vice president -- would you please send colmes an autographed picture. thank you. next on the run down an american muslim spokesman replies and later charles krauthammer will weigh in as well. also, up ahead. 20 states challenging obama care is it legal handicap the court case which begins today i'm bret baier in washington with an update. the republican gubernatorial primary in new york taking on democrat andrew kw off omo in november and o'donnell will need tea party support in november. fox news learned national republican senator yil committee says it will not support the campaign. ron johnson won the wisconsin g.o.p. senate nomination taking on russ feingold in the fall n new hampshire tea party favorite in the senate race there, there is a lead over the g.o.p. senate nod arks kting is slow. and congressman charlie wrangle leads democratic pry mary. more results on fox news.com. the o'reilly factor returns in just a moment. ♪ for he's a jolly good fellow ♪ the meeting's tomorro in dals ♪ ♪ we need to finish tho projections ♪ ♪ then output the final presentations ♪ ♪ sally, i'm gonna need 40 copies, obviously collated ♪ wht's going on? 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>> no, i think you are right. no, no. i think it's been a very damaging controversy. i think first of all, you know, if the backers of the project were going to do this, they had to understand the political context, the cultural context and they obviously didn't. they didn't present it in a way that would be understood or sympathized with by most americans. they allowed bloggers to define it as a ground zero mosque controversy. once purr seed as ground zero mosque the issue was sunk. then they would have had to come up quickly with some imagine unanimous high ground compromise. they're only coming around to that now. >> bill: what do you think now hussein was the intent in the beginning by imam rauf? >> right. >> bill: what did he want to do? >> all right. i mean, i have been watching this guy for a while. and i'm pretty convinced, unlike his critics, that he doesn't have a political agenda. but i think he can be very self-serving. he describes himself as visionary. one of these inner faith guys. most of what he does is for the greater glory of imam feisal rauf. kind of familiar cleric who is sort of igoe tis particular call. i think what he wanted was a another platform to pursue interfaith stuff and promote himself. he lives in a bubble. i think he lives in a little bubble. >> bill: look, i don't know whether he -- -- whether he is underiened stand the american people or not. >> if so, why did he do this? it makes no sense. >> bill: all rauf would have to do to get his mosque community center built would have to say, look, we're going to dedicate this to peace and we're going to condemn the jihad right here and right now. >> well, i think he tried to say it in a ham handed way. >> bill: that's an easy fix. >> they didn't know how to say it i look at this and i say here are people that just don't know how to communicate to middle america. they live in a rarefied world they don't have a clue. >> bill: all he has to say is -- it's not going to get bill of indictment now. >> i actually agree with you. first, he doesn't have the money and secondly too much political pressure and they mishandled it i agree. >> bill: all he would have to do is a say to the american people i'm a man of peace this mosque community center is dedicated to peace. and condemn all the people. >> he has been pretty clear about being anti-9/11. no nobody knows what that thing is for there for. nobody know what is it is there for. >> i don't think it's mysterious what it's there for. it's a building by a cleric who likes to self-promote. i think that's what it was. >> bill: he can move his museum some place else. >> i think it is going to be moved, as a matter of fact. >> bill: you know this guy khan. >> no. >> the truther who founded the muslim organization with rauf? do you know him? >> no. all i know about him what i gather he is another like rauf. they, along with a whole bunch of other people in around 2001, 2002 or something like that, co-founded a very large umbrella organization for other mystical muslims. >> bill: what do you mean mystical? wind chime guy. >> no. sort of. they are not literalists. they are interested in sort of spiritual, sort of -- >> bill: how can a guy interested in the spiritual world say al qaeda didn't attack on 9/11. >> dumb idea. >> we were attacked. this is a dumb idea conspiracy theory unfortunately like something like 15% of americans believe. in you find people who go for this nonsense in all walks of life. famous joke on south park where they said this is idiotic and say 15% of americans believe it are you calling 15% of americans idiotic and the kid said at least 15%. which is pretty funny. doesn't tell us anything about rauf and what he thinks. doesn't tell us anything at all about the project and whether it's a good idea or not. it piles on the suspicion. there is no doubt. piles on. >> bill: it does. >> i agree. no one should believe this stuff and if you know someone believes it, you shouldn't swosht them in any direct way. i doubt rauf knew that. >> bill: i think he knew it i don't think he cared. >> i don't know. >> bill: we appreciate you coming on. i have got to run. >> all right. >> bill: my new book pinheads and patriots where you stand on in the age of obama. is the president a patriot or pinhead? 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