>> exactly right. he is a great campaigner. he brings a smile to your face. not everyone, a lot of people in the u.k. don't like him, but he has energy. he is unconventional pretty is antiestablishment. and that's what people are responding to. that's why it is an interesting thing to think about when you look at the elections next year here in america. similar sort of thing going on with president trump's appeal, and one more thing i would say is that even though the very early days in terms of the number of seats of the election declared, one of them already is really significant, the conservatives have won a form of mining town in the north of england, working class town that has never, ever had the conservative representative in parliament before. they are really changing the way politics is organized, that working class support from switching over. >> martha: so interesting all around for this relationship. thank you, steve. great to see you tonight. steven hilton.en "the story" continues right after this break. thank you, steve.